10 March 2008
Shocking News - Human Rights Group Condemns Guantanamo Trials
Hasn't it already been established that only three high-level terrorists were waterboarded? Via Patterico's, this link from ABC News says so:
So how many trials are tainted by this? According to Human Rights First, all of them:
There was no systematic "torture and inhuman treatment" at Guantanamo and I don't believe there has been anywhere else. The interrogators I met while in the Army all spoke of incentive-based interrogation being the best long-term tool. The only reason to use harsh interrogation methods is for time-sensitive intelligence. Many detainees would come back a little worse-for-wear because they smoked too much (link is from my interview with Patterico in 2006) and ate too much pizza, never from physical interrogation.
This is just another attempt to smear the military, the administration, and the United States by an anti-American "rights group" and the MSM.
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For all the debate over waterboarding, it has been used on only three
al Qaeda figures, according to current and former U.S. intelligence
officials.
So how many trials are tainted by this? According to Human Rights First, all of them:
U.S. military commission trials of
Guantanamo terrorism suspects will be tainted by coercive
tactics such as waterboarding used to obtain evidence and
should be scrapped, human rights groups said on Monday.
There was no systematic "torture and inhuman treatment" at Guantanamo and I don't believe there has been anywhere else. The interrogators I met while in the Army all spoke of incentive-based interrogation being the best long-term tool. The only reason to use harsh interrogation methods is for time-sensitive intelligence. Many detainees would come back a little worse-for-wear because they smoked too much (link is from my interview with Patterico in 2006) and ate too much pizza, never from physical interrogation.
This is just another attempt to smear the military, the administration, and the United States by an anti-American "rights group" and the MSM.
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You've read the criticism of lawyers at Patterico's blog. I sympathize with those who don't like lawyers or what they do. I'll even admit some of the criticism is deserved.
But all those complaints pale compared to the injustices perpetrated by some of the volunteer GTMO defense lawyers, who seemingly will spend and do anything to free the detained terrorists. I understand the detainees are entitled to representation but they aren't entitled to rewrite the rules of war or to have better treatment and attorneys than most Americans could ever afford.
But all those complaints pale compared to the injustices perpetrated by some of the volunteer GTMO defense lawyers, who seemingly will spend and do anything to free the detained terrorists. I understand the detainees are entitled to representation but they aren't entitled to rewrite the rules of war or to have better treatment and attorneys than most Americans could ever afford.
Posted by: DRJ at 11 March 2008@15:09:27 (wE7Og)
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You've got liberal and conservative people in every profession. I would give the benefit of the doubt in most cases that those attorneys believe they are doing the right thing... they may even believe their client's claims of torture and abuse despite how often it has been debunked.
There are also the sponsors who pay some of these attorneys, either individuals who hate the U.S., or governments who do. I would say most of them know these claims are false and encourage the lies because it serves the sponsors purpose.
I don't have a problem with lawyers, just with society being "over-lawyered". You could easily say the same about Social Workers, Psychologists, and politicians. Fortunately, you can never have enough Nurses... heh.
There are also the sponsors who pay some of these attorneys, either individuals who hate the U.S., or governments who do. I would say most of them know these claims are false and encourage the lies because it serves the sponsors purpose.
I don't have a problem with lawyers, just with society being "over-lawyered". You could easily say the same about Social Workers, Psychologists, and politicians. Fortunately, you can never have enough Nurses... heh.
Posted by: Stashiu3 at 11 March 2008@15:19:42 (Q5ggV)
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